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Achtung Panzer · 07-01-2013, 12:38 PM

(07-01-2013 04:39 AM)MoonSylver Wrote:
(07-01-2013 02:03 AM)StayPuft Wrote: Again, I have not yet had a chance to re-read through the rulebook, so I apologize if this was answered there and I may have just missed it. As we all know, if an elder is "killed" during the course of the game (other than as result of a showdown with the villain) they are not removed from the game, but are simply turned a different direction to differentiate them from the Elders who are still alive.

This is because a "dead" Elder could turn out to secretly be an Evil Elder, thereby having faked their death and joining the villain. However, what I wasn't sure of... when the very first showdown begins after the Elder "died," do they get revealed instantly since they were "dead," or would they only be revealed if somebody accused them? In other words, it could be that, thematically, that hero didn't believe that they were really dead and believed that they were evil all along.

In Competitive, they only get revealed if Accused. In Co-Op/Solo they get revealed when the Elder is killed (although I & others play the House Rule that you Reveal all dead Elders Secrets when the Showdown begins: more thematic that way )

P.15

Quote:When a Town Elder is killed, turn their card sideways to show this. That Elder keeps their Secrets and can still be investigated, but may no longer join a Hunting Party (as they are dead). The reason that they keep their Secrets is that if they turn out to be evil, it is assumed that they faked their own death and still join the Villain.

and Pg.20

Quote:When a Town Elder is killed, move the Shadow
Track as normal and then reveal all of that Elder’s
Secrets. Any Keyword Evil Secrets they have immediately take affect, turning them into an Evil Elder instead
---MS

"Any Keyword Evil Secrets they have immediately take affect, turning them into an Evil Elder instead" - so in this case you do not move the tracker as that only happens for killed elders?